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WL: Yes! But he's just a man of great gifts and much appreciation. He attended all of the ensembles, he supported the faculty 100%, he came to as many recitals of individual students that he could--it's just phenomenal what he has done, and I think at one time he was advising all the majors. And he had his hand on everything, I mean, that's why I keep saying, “You talk to him” because he has his hand on stuff. I'm talking about things sort of at a distance compared to him, because he's been the hub—he's been the thing that's kept this wheel going and kept it oiled and kept everything, and so much is owed him. Not any individuals, just him, in getting this team working and improving. In 1970 we got accreditation with NASM and there's been all of these reviews over every 5 to 10-year period, whichever it is, and he's been completely involved in that.
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